Episode 9 | New Dad Gaming

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[0:14] oh hi there I didn’t uh see you guys walk in just enjoying some fine children’s candy welcome to New dad gaming the kids are asleep we have

[0:22] stolen their candy and it’s once again time for the show this show is about fatherhood gaming and new fathers figuring out their gaming lives as

[0:31] always I’m Trevor and I have now a 5-month-old I’m Gavin and I have a almost three-month old I’m Jeff I’m at dealing

[0:41] in months it’s a 5-year-old and a two and a half year old that that candy gag is not paying off because now I have it stuck in my

[0:51] teeth I heard like you had like this pause I’m like oh looks did he now he has to like chew on a gummy I’ll get it keep

[1:03] going filming Mr Ed else could just fill in for them ah there goes the we need subtitles oh like how how great is it now like as an adult

[1:16] having money and going to the grocery store the day after and picking up candy for like $2 like all the candy could possibly eat yeah is that what you ended

[1:26] up doing because I recall you being a wee bit of like we have to conserve candy oh okay so for I I will set the scene in

[1:39] that uh new dad Gavin came to new dad Trevor’s house for Halloween and we handed o candy and I had this scenario built up in my mind where we were going

[1:49] to have just not enough like we were going to get it was only like 6 o’ and there’s a bunch of kids coming and we’re just going to be out of candy we’re

[1:56] going to be that jerk house at 7:00 like turns off the lights he was like the Romans awaiting the gothic hord like just they’re coming any day now the busy

[2:07] Goths are going to come and just burn our place to the ground in unless we give them candy so yeah so they were coming back from the door and they’re

[2:15] like oh yeah you know I handed out about four or five each and it’s just like what four like four or five got ration ration what are you

[2:25] doing but then but then it gets to a point where it starts to get a little bit later it’s like 7:30 and eight it’s like okay now we have a lot of candy and

[2:33] it’s slowing down oh God like give out a lot of candy like shove it out like what on Earth is the proper balance as far as like handing the stuff out so you don’t

[2:41] end up with well here’s a kicker though that made me roll with laughter was like in the literally the same breath of him going guys we really have to conserve

[2:52] how much candy we’re giving out or we’re going to run out of candy while he’s telling us that he’s opening a Snickers per slowly putting it in his

[3:01] mouth like what are you doing like you telling us and you’re just like yeah go on that’s part of the math don’t look at me don’t look at

[3:12] me I’m so I’m so weak I can’t help it that that all figured into the candy equation I assure you so it’s like if we hand out two per kid and I consume two

[3:24] per minute how much candy will we end up at the end of the night see you did it all wrong you’re supposed to do the reward system right a good costume earns

[3:31] you more candy less costume less candy oh no there was a one of our group actually gave out candy to a no costume which is oh no you don’t big faux paw no

[3:44] that’s why you keep a curon of eggs and you don’t throw the eggs at the kid you just put gently the uncooked raw egg

[3:53] in their egg in their candy and then you kick their bag and then and and then just let let the Knight do what it does it’s like you

[4:03] plant the the land mine and you see where it goes no you take the candy back out of their bag like no yourself to a handful oh this looks

[4:14] delicious thank you time to pay the tax man maybe an apple like it’s like oh okay tricker oo no fullsize Snickers for you here you go here’s a red delicious

[4:26] you jerk you do like a beat and switch and you have like just like the greatest giant CH chocolate bar ever and you just like you go to put it in you’re like

[4:34] psych and you drop in perfect yeah next year next year next year we just go to the dollar store and buy like a crate of like dental floss or like toothpaste and

[4:47] just be like there you go toothpaste oh that’s like that’s insulting I don’t know I figured the one thing would

[4:56] be not to I would have a I if I was the guy who went to the door I think I probably would have just given it to them anyway he’s like all right yeah you

[5:04] SC a it’s like oh you scamps have a candy get out of here B it’s kind of like if they couldn’t quite afford dad talk oh

[5:15] you oh you scamps get out of here the secondly it’s the idea maybe I don’t know if they could afford a costume although part of me believes that in

[5:23] that case they could have just bring that in they’ll bring us down with that well no really

[5:30] like you can go to the Dollar Store and get like like a cat mask for alum if you’re okay if you Sharpie and like draw like sunglasses on if you make like a$1

[5:41] investment or let’s say even let’s just be more realistic because of inflation if you make like a $3 investment at the dollar store you will see easily like a

[5:50] 5,000% return on your investment by way of candy so like most kids can find in the cach enough Revenue to buy a costume um even if it’s something just just try

[6:03] like use use a Crayola marker and just hope it’s a washable one and do something but it’s my thing is the kids Brazen enough to walk up to the front

[6:11] door just in their regular clothes just being like give me candy where’s your caution I don’t got one that kid’s Brazen and enough to do some serious

[6:18] damage and that’s like you’re it’s it’s more like protection money like when the mob comes to your small business and they’re like hey yeah uh you’re going to

[6:26] pay us and you’re like I guess so cuz I don’t like fire and give them the candy it escalated mob burning all the way from

[6:38] the candy so we’ll we’ll chalk it under lovable scamps and so yeah so that was our Halloween being Gavin anyways like it um that was

[6:49] good I I for a couple years have wanted to be on the giving end from the candy point of view didn’t really want to go out this year so I like that was an

[6:56] absolute blast and uh you know thanks Gavin to your family coming along nice to meet you little one that was fun he did anyway kick the pumpkin apart or was

[7:04] it did it survive no survived the whole night it’s now in our kitchen table and I’m sure it’ll last forever yes yes it will yes I bought a uh a forever

[7:15] pumpkin so if it if it goes green it’s just bolting it’ll go back to its original form just be patient just his power through nice so Jeff as the I

[7:26] assume you took your darling son’s cheating how did that uh how that play it’s awesome cuz I got all the candy so you know go kids go you know when you’re

[7:38] younger and you put your candy downstairs and you sorted it and you woke up and you thought you had all the candy again no your parents were

[7:45] downstairs eating it because that’s what I was doing it’s just not good for them whatever I’ll eat it um this is for your

[7:52] own Goods son this is for your own good you you don’t need 50 Snickers like come on no no no full sized chocolate bars you can’t eat that that’s you catch

[8:01] them before they can like really handle the math oh they don’t yeah they don’t understand they like they don’t they don’t inventory no never teach your kids

[8:09] to inventory my 5-year-old dad Rule Number 27 never teach your kids to inventory yeah it will always come back to haunt

[8:18] you Sor that is that like a stone store away from like don’t teach your kid to count because it’s sounding like some pretty bum advice don’t remember

[8:25] anything no memory but it was good taking them out is um uh they had about an hour maybe less than that and then we came back here and HED Oak candy but as

[8:37] back in my day I always thought that I was out like night on the town for like five hours I thought it was the longest night of my life got tons of candy these

[8:48] kids like we were done at 7:45 there’s nobody else coming around that was it like it was over night over so I probably don’t remember time correctly

[8:57] but um they were in bed I had the candy and it was a great night so I think you’re I think you’re right and Gavin I think you might be able to back me up on

[9:05] it like we I was definitely out until like I maximized my night I was out until 9 I was out until I was out till 9:30 I was out until you were going to

[9:14] houses and no one was answering anymore like they shut down the town before we were finished because there was candy and I was getting

[9:21] it right yeah it was like you would you would know the night was done when you got to houses and they the people handing out candy had given up to the

[9:30] point where you were that lucky kid where they just like there’s like a three four pieces of candy left in the bowl and they’re just like just take it

[9:37] they just dump the pole and just get go home take this and go home and that was when you kind of when you saw those you knew that the the night was starting to

[9:47] come to a close it’s like when you see like a bar closing and like the regular leaves it’s like oh stand left okay yeah this place is closen up we better

[9:57] go yeah I don’t know yeah I recall uh it being a much more I don’t know like yeah a longer duration than like one to two

[10:08] hours I remember like for some reason my head I think like oh we spent one to two hours per neighborhood and then we would Pile in the car and drive to a fresh

[10:17] neighborhood and then ransack that one but maybe it was like only 10 minute intervals yeah you you guys grow up in like um you guys grw up in small towns

[10:27] like I did I don’t know maybe that’s like it’s kind of a city thing because so we were this we’re in Toronto um and I I don’t know if like maybe just

[10:36] Toronto parents don’t want them R wandering around at like 8 or 9ine at night so they shut it down early I don’t know maybe yeah because I

[10:46] was like my my hometown’s a lot smaller than much smaller than Toronto um but uh yeah I don’t recall things getting closed up as

[10:57] early uh uh I don’t know whether it’s just my concept of time has changed or whether it’s a city Small Town Country kind of thing I don’t know no I think

[11:11] it’s safe to say kids today are worse than we were they’re weak they’re

[11:19] mean and they will uh they will form a a gang and steal your candy without even wearing a costume that’s right it’s happening little

[11:32] buggers that’s right I think yeah the um doing it for the kids I think is great I think be kind of curious too is that the I think the kids costumes now are so

[11:42] much more a reflection of parents and their Nostalgia as opposed to like you know kid’s actual desire to be anything yeah like it feels like CU

[11:52] you know we’re in a age demographic where like it’s kind of okay to have a childish um uh hobbies and enjoyments if you would so like the thought that you

[12:01] could dress your little kid up as Darth Vader or obscure like Nintendo games or anything else that you’d want to right I think you’re seeing a lot more of oh man

[12:11] look what I dressed my kid up as like I dressed my kid up as that’s hilarious I find it funny yeah I actually know of a guy um I met him about a week or so ago

[12:22] just kind of like at a social event and his daughter wanted to go as like a Disney character and he was like no you should go with Darth Vader she’s like I

[12:31] want to go as Disney character he’s like no don’t go as a silly Disney character go and you like try to convince her how cool it would be to go as like princess

[12:38] ler Darth Vader because Star Wars is coming out soon I think the end result was like a a princess with a Darth Vader helmet

[12:49] on okay yeah yeah that’s a good one that’s a good compromise it’s it’s a compromise I’d say it’s a compromise uh well it is except that that’s not what

[12:56] the kid wanted like okay there’s there’s the rub that wasn’t necessarily what the kid wanted to do um I’m not sure whether the costume came up

[13:09] out due to the kid finally being like actually no that’s a good idea or whether it was literally on the way at the door like like put on a little boot

[13:19] you get yeah Dad what are you singing nothing look over there just like lowering it on his head why won’t it come off it will come off

[13:28] in few days don’t worry the glue will let go the um so I’m looking forward to that like the the time when he starts

[13:38] dressing up and I can actually take my son out for trick-or-treating I think that’s going to be an absolute blast that’s I think it’s one of those father

[13:44] moments I think we get to really look forward to and participating with I’m excited for like finding that like that thing that they really dig and then

[13:54] becoming enthusiastic about that you know and I I honestly don’t care what it is like I I have a little girl it could be something stereotypically girly it

[14:04] could be something completely obscure like she could just be like I want to go as a dinosaur you went as a dinosaur last year dear I don’t want to go as a

[14:11] dinosaur okay fine well at least a different dinosaur no stegosaurus every year stegosaurus and like that could be it like I could just she always wants to

[14:20] go with stegosaurus I don’t know um but I’m excited to find out and then to go out on that Adventure just the smell of Halloween like the fall leaves that I

[14:29] know it’s just something this this year was one of the first years in a while that I’ve gotten to get really enthusiastic about it too um as as

[14:37] Trevor could uh could attest is like I showed up like my wife and I are both dressed up and we got like a carve pumpkin we like hey guys Halloween want

[14:46] do Halloween now can we it started yet um so yeah no it’s exciting just going and like holding her hand and uh making sure that they do a

[15:00] good proper six hours Daddy I’m tired it’s like that you’ve only gotten two bags of candy yeah you’re not getting home to you get

[15:09] four so bust it and then mysteriously during the night two bags of candy disappear and just like I don’t know what happened

[15:17] free candy daddy you made me get five bags of candy but there’s only two bags of candy I don’t know don’t know work harder in the free Society we have to

[15:28] pay a thing called tax taxes pay for basic goods and services like your education and your food so this is Dad’s

[15:40] now the yeah so um you know switch it over to gaming then from the week I actually had a bit of a well traumatic would be overstating it a little bit but

[15:50] it kind of kind of puts into the right wheelhouse anyways where I had as as much I am still a very big fan and

[15:59] supporter of PC gaming as far as like that’s my vehicle for my video games like I think it’s uh offers a lot of great opportunities a lot of variety

[16:08] Choice excellent deals for games great but with it does come some risks and one of those risks hit me where I could not play video games for two of my gaming

[16:20] sessions that I had and it was so sad like beond that was sad because especially now as a father like gaming it’s like all right I have like this 20

[16:31] minutes or 30 minutes everything’s kind of calm I’m going to just play a quick game here finally kind of just like kick my feet up for a bit and then to go and

[16:39] just have it not work for a technical reason it just so grind grading and I think there’s even I I was going to I really wanted to play

[16:48] rocket League U wanted to hop in give a quick match there was an issue it’s a known bug where the controller sometimes doesn’t register as player one

[16:59] so you can’t use it so you’d have to use a keyboard instead which is basically not playing the game properly so I’m so I’ve fritted away two

[17:10] gaming sessions going online trying to go through forums and figure out what the heck was wrong with it and I eventually fixed it but just it just

[17:18] just slapped me in the face as far as PC gaming just sometimes it doesn’t work and now especially like as a dad with so little time to do it like that’s man

[17:30] that is not an easy failure to take like that it’s it makes a great argument for console gaming when your time is so limited to just be able to pick up

[17:41] playing and then put down and go like I remember it Battlefield 4 every single time I go to Bud up Battlefield 4 it would be like oh you have to update your

[17:51] video card driver like well I just did that like a week ago well there’s the new like 14 point like decimal decimal like like eight

[18:02] it’s like this is like the 1,000th of an update like it’s it’s still technically a beta test of a driver file like I don’t need it the

[18:12] other driver file worked fine just let me play and they’re like no because this new one exists you can’t play until you update and it’s just like I’m not gonna

[18:20] I have half an hour to play and you want me to do 20 minutes of updates like how’s that work it doesn’t work So eventually that kind of made me lose

[18:29] desire to play the game much more on the PC where anytime I used to play Battlefield games on the consoles it just be like boot up go and you know

[18:37] maybe there’d be an update but it would be automated like you wouldn’t have to research like okay what video card do I have what driver file should I

[18:45] get and yeah it it really does take the wind of your sales when you’re like sit down that’s one of the things about PC gaming where just a

[18:56] second see okay it’s those old uh those old problems you used to have right where you would figure out and tweak and Patch

[19:08] your games before you had to play I used to be a PC Gamer and then switch to consoles just because I’m lazy and I just want to pop it in and have it work

[19:16] which does work in my favor as a dad because the PS4 you can auto update like it sleeps and it just does its thing so you boot it up and it’s good to go um I

[19:27] guess the same as not true for PC all the time but whatever sorry you suck and to its to its credit

[19:38] like it it I did eventually find the issue it was my fault something else oh yeah’s stop beating on the poor PC then

[19:49] in the in the sense that I I installed a different program I did something and it just usurped another thing without really telling anything else that it was

[19:57] doing such a thing thing yeah so you know you just had to troubleshoot it but the yeah man that is just it was so troubleshooting is the worst video game

[20:07] of all oh it sucks yeah internet forums are some of my least favorite levels on the internet game as far as trying some of the worst bosses you could imagine

[20:20] so man but just I definitely yeah I don’t think I’m going to switch anytime soon and you know it fortunately happens rarely enough and I still like enough of

[20:30] the other benefits of PC of gaming that I’m not about to let this I’m not about to go sell it online and quickly pick up a console as fast as possible but like

[20:38] it’s still it was so defeating like and to have it happen twice and just yeah that was it was crushing it was just crushing just really if nothing else

[20:49] drove home just how important now those like those little times are as like a new dad trying to get some gaming in like

[20:58] gez if you lose that like that is just because because L like I this is my gaming time blew it trying to fix a computer issue and then I went to

[21:06] [Laughter] bed yeah you get to you bookend a long hard day with troubleshooting online and try to debug an is shuee and then you

[21:19] get to go to sleep after that it’s like it’s like you don’t have broccoli for dessert like that’s just not how it works but the uh so gentlemen yourselves

[21:29] how was your week in gaming and fatherhood Jeff you want to go ahead sure um well speaking of switching I slightly swapped to not PC gaming but

[21:43] Mac gaming um you enjoying all those all six games that like I have let’s see I got steam up right now 15 I got

[21:55] 15 but um I haven’t played all of them of course but I dove into the Halloween sale on Steam and got both witchers which I shouldn’t have done because

[22:07] that’s like 200 hours of horribleness um so I tried that out it’s okay sorry for reference you got like the old witchers like Witcher one and

[22:21] two or you got Witcher one and Witcher two impr prep that I hope to have Witcher 3 on sale for PS4 sometime cuz right now it’s like $74 or whatever our

[22:33] currency is at so yeah I don’t know so I wanted to prepare myself stupidly I would just I should have just watched a YouTube video or say it’s like

[22:46] you could have spent like instead of 200 hours ripping through old games it’s like you could just spend two hours on YouTube and I know it was a dollar I

[22:56] don’t like it’s a dollar or whatever against my own advice I don’t what what’s your what’s your exasperation coming from though is it because the

[23:04] games are like you’re not enjoying them or you’re just concerned about the time sync well a little bit of the time sync and the mechanics of the game are about

[23:13] 7 years old so not the best um like the combat is kind of antiquated if that’s the right word um just it’s old school it’s not really like click and you have

[23:26] a like a sword come down it’s more of like a click and it’s a roll of the dice of numbers and the other guy just gets hit and then you I don’t know it’s odd

[23:39] don’t try it it’s kind of sucks the fim out of the game but it’s part of the game so I don’t know I might just dump it and not do it ever again or might go

[23:51] back for another shot but again I was just sucked into that Steam Sale which I shouldn’t have done I’m not used to that as a console gamer for games full games

[24:02] especially I find with PlayStation is their sales are very infrequent and when they do go on sale it’s like there’s really not I think the big thing too

[24:12] especially with PS4 is that right now there there’s that PS go is that it no which one PS Now PS now that’s it yeah the old cool um and I

[24:23] think with that system like there’s this huge back catalog of games that would go on sale right exactly but they’re not available because they want to like the

[24:35] PS4 could easily emulate all the PS3 Library that’s available but they don’t want to do that because they want to do it through the streaming service because

[24:44] that’s how they want to prevent present that content I was say prevent that content kind of doing that yes it’s not not so far

[24:54] off now is it you I was gonna ask I just saw an add for that today they added like 150 new titles to it I thought it kind

[25:02] of looked like a pretty decent deal actually as far as so you pay you pay a monthly subscription yes and these games stream to your system and you can just

[25:11] play them and it’s all kind of an old P it must be PS3 games and older I imagine PS3 PS2 and PS1 yeah and like it’s a great library but the price points a

[25:22] little high in it’s horribly high for for what you’re getting like what is it what’s the price I think 20 20 20 bucks a

[25:56] month

[26:13] that to me is crazy like huge like when Netflix is eight bucks yeah right I thought more because it’s an interactive experience but the majority of these

[26:26] titles are like a generation or more old yeah so like it just doesn’t make especially too when you when they’re main competitors doing backwards

[26:37] compatibility now with their entire previous Library it’s like oh I can tell you which of the two which one is going to win out um yeah and yeah it’s just a

[26:49] shame because there is a big back catalog of PS3 that I want to enjoy I want to check out but I don’t like if they did like a steam sale uh for PS3

[27:01] titles on the PS4 I would just be all over that I’d be buying them even if it wasn’t a superly discounted price I would still be all over it

[27:12] um but then I’d have it it’d be in a library and I right but to put that money out there and to be like well especially when you’re busy you know I

[27:22] don’t know like this month coming up I’m pretty sure I’m not going to get much gaming time which is sad because I got follow on the way next week um

[27:32] just so to have something where it’s like in order to make it the $20 a month worthwhile like you should have a

[27:44] regularly scheduled gaming routine that means that oh I’ll get this many hours I should be able to at least complete a game a month or this

[27:53] or that but my gaming time is so sporadic that there’s probably a majority of the months in the year where I’m like I don’t know if I really got 20

[28:01] bucks worth of game time out of that when there’s other games on top as well like new releases that I want to play like we’re talking 20 bucks a month to

[28:09] play an old that catalog you know seems like it’ be yeah you need a decent time investment to possibly make that worth it for games that are relatively older

[28:18] and especially as like a new father like you don’t have you don’t stand a chance of getting $20 worth like I would happily pay five

[28:27] bucks for an old PS3 title to throw on when I get a chance here and there um because they even have a system where you can rent by the hour like you don’t

[28:37] just have to do the by the month but then I’m like but then I rent it do I get to keep the save file or does that go away too like how do this

[28:48] work and even if I did get to keep the save file and I of the rental time I have it expires it’s like oh I got so much time I want to play some more and

[28:57] it’s it’s like by the time I’m done I paid almost retail new release price for a game that’s like 12 years old it’s like what is it is it is it an hour

[29:07] total time I hope because otherwise it’s like you oh because you rent it for the I like all right I got this till three o00 like let’s start playing and just

[29:15] like like no no this is this is the only hour I have baby please the PlayStation’s going to take it away from me you please don’t do this

[29:27] that’s the thing I don’t like is the idea that like you’re it’s going to get taken back and you’re like but I wanted to just buy it can I just buy it

[29:39] no anyway that was that was my gaming experience was the Steam Sale and welcome back it’s great welcome back to Big Game put a lot of my wish list

[29:51] for when they go on sale for the Christmas sale I’m sure that they are going to have again or the winter theme sale um but I didn’t buy anything else

[30:00] just Witcher one and two I figured that was enough that was $4 total years of gameplay so you’ll be fine yeah I know I don’t know what’s gonna happen I’ll keep

[30:09] you guys updated um in terms of fatherhood uh not too much swimming lessons Halloween was great um again just what did your kids go as I don’t

[30:21] know if you’re already mentioned or if I just Batman we had a Batman so my 5-year-old went as a Batman very must must have been proud love superheroes so

[30:28] it’s great um it’s kind of like the Costco Batman so super high quality actually recommend Costco uh less creative than some of the other costumes

[30:37] but he had like the full muscles and everything and then my youngest went as Chase from Paw Patrol you guys know that yet you will I’ve seen it I’ve seen it

[30:50] on the Netflix like I think it’s dogs that’s yes rescue dogs rescue dogs you will know know it well if that still exists when your little ones grow up man

[31:02] man have you seen um Bubble Guppies Bubble Guppies was are crack cocaine for a while I mean it look look it is a kid show it’s

[31:12] Mermaid so it doesn’t need to necessarily be realistic but quite literally there’s no need for those things to be underwater like I watched

[31:20] an episode where they had a a fire based Pizza business and they were serving it up and it’s like what does this have to do with the

[31:32] sea they have like other animals that are guppies it’s like why are you underwater like it’s there’s no need just like have funky kids running around

[31:41] they had another episode where it’s like there’s like a for like a literal forest and like a bridge it’s like where does a bridge go over in the sea you’re in the

[31:50] water and they can’t get over it right they can’t swim over it they got to find a way around a broken bridge or a hill or something you have only we had like

[31:58] an extra axis of movement under a medium that’s all around us like water I remember that theme song well I could sing it all for you I’m not going to but

[32:08] oh all the time Paw Patrol will be the next one trust me yeah I I to this day that pizza thing just like I I still have I’m so angry I I like it made you

[32:23] like like physically angry like it was like mad at it like no no that’s wrong can’t do this I’m yelling at these little mermaid kids like tweeting the

[32:34] show Facebooking it don’t watch it it’s it’s not like it’s not that they can’t it’s you can’t have a fire underwater fine like you’re mer people like it’s

[32:44] so so like we’ve obviously given away the um need for realism but it’s just like the that they’re not using their setup it’s like yeah we’re people of the

[32:54] sky and we fly around and we all have wings that’s great everybody on the bus you’re like why is there a bus you fly like you’re your birds that doesn’t like

[33:03] use use to pallet by what you’re given for the process of the show like I get the feeling I’m going to hate a lot of kid shows yes you are episode of like

[33:14] it’d be an episode of Popeye where he spends the entire episode looking for a can opener you’re like you’re popey just break the can like that’s part of the

[33:23] stick like it doesn’t make it’d be like the rescue dogs going help we need to be rescued it’s like no that’s what you do it’s backwards it’s not like maybe a

[33:36] episode where one of them’s in Peril but not every yeah it just it just feels a tad bit lazy though you know like if you think about things things that could go

[33:45] under like it like you’re collecting seaweed or you star like the starfish are in trouble or you have you know you have to to contrast you should rate for

[33:55] this show right I I just nailed a whole season of underwater stuff it just feels like it’s like okay well here’s like this 20 classic

[34:05] storylines let’s just shove it underwater and now with dogs that talk and now in the sky like there’s no care or concern given to like

[34:16] the the scope of like where exactly these characters are like it’s bothersome some watching some of these shows and it’s well prod like it’s well

[34:23] produced like there’s songs like it’s the animation seem really tight so just who man I’m going to don’t buy the app though I will warn you do not buy their

[34:33] app because it’s addictive or it’s garbage no because I bought it for my kids when they were a little bit older than yours right so they could hear the

[34:41] voices and play with it but they changed it I think there was a licensing issue and they’re not the same voices so they don’t even recognize it do not get it oh

[34:51] that’s dirt that’s dir dirty and I had it before and then it switched over like one of the updates Chang all them through the

[35:00] update it’s going to be great it’s like the oh I love Bubble Guppies hey kidsy buy my other app that happened when I was working on um like a kids TV

[35:13] show and I was doing like art assets for marketing and stuff afterwards but I got some of their uh like pre-released episodes where they were still work in

[35:22] progress and they had still had some place over like placeholder um Voice work it was literally like this like this cute little woodlen character and

[35:34] then it just started talking and it was like this like 65y old black guy just like oh but it was like the oh yeah yeah or like there would be another one where

[35:45] it was just like you know you’d see this giant hippopotamus and it had like you know just big Burly things like oh that’s

[35:53] going to have a deep voice and it’s like you know they just had like jam from accounting come in and quickly do voice like it was just

[36:01] like it was so bizarre it was just you saw it happened and the mouth was moving like that’s not right at all but it was so much fun to watch too great it was

[36:12] just one of those little things that like one of the perks of working on the show was getting to see things when they were still like just half horribly rough

[36:22] oh man so bad oh yeah kids you got to go to Bubblegum fors make sure you get those bubble drops but like this stuff had to be in

[36:33] because they need to know the timing for the animation and stuff and was just like yep let’s just get this finished candy I love

[36:45] candy see now that that I’d watch that’d be fine see there you go now we have kids shows I like so yeah yeah so Gavin yourself how was

[36:55] your week in gaming and fatherhood um fatherhood was a lot of fun um got to do some cool stuff uh our baby flipped whoa that down yeah and she she

[37:10] got it in before three month Mark too so we’re super proud of her it’s like all right certified genius book it so uh but the thing was is that was a like uh my

[37:20] wife had been working with the baby just like doing the exercises as far as putting her on her tummy making sure she strikes some right muscles and she just

[37:29] been diligent about it and just you know on top of it so last Thursday my wife’s like I’m I’m I there’s a bottle of milk in the fridge uh but I would really love

[37:40] to just have some me time and go to the spa and and relax I’m like yeah go for it just have fun and uh you know I I got I got this don’t worry about it and of

[37:51] course that’s when the baby decided um none of that work all the payoff never I know it’s like running a marathon and then somebody coming in at

[38:02] the last minute break the ribbon yeah so but luckily um she did it a couple times so I got like some really good video of it uh so that kind of took a bit of the

[38:13] sting off and then the next day uh the baby did it a couple more times for my wife so it it eventually The Sting wore off but it was just one of those like oh

[38:23] are you kidding me um and then yeah today we had some nice photos done with uh my sister-in-law game over and we got some nice photography done so that was a

[38:32] lot of fun uh beautiful day for it we went to a nice little park and lots of great canopy with the leaves changing so uh as far as gaming goes um still

[38:42] plugging away at some uh Dying Light uh I’m working quite a bit right now uh just because I got a couple things come to deadline and it’s just work work work

[38:53] baby baby baby uh but I did manage to play something new this week uh when I got home on Halloween and I got the family all tucked in it’s a bubble guppy

[39:04] app isn’t it I picked up the Bubble Guppy app and I played it for six hours straight uh no I um I finally got a chance to crack into

[39:13] PT oh yeah I heard things about it it’s pretty intense to hop into man like too that’s good yeah I’m like you know what my first time playing PT is

[39:24] going to be the last like half hour of hallowen um and what’s interesting is playing a horror game when you have a sleeping

[39:33] infant in the Next Room like the wall right adjacent to you it’s like you know in a horror movie where there’s like somebody hiding in the closet from like

[39:45] you know the Chainsaw Murder guy obviously Leatherface from Texas I understand my horror movies I’m just being aoop uh but okay so you’re you’re

[39:56] hiding like Jason bores is in the next room and he’s looking for you and you’re hiding in the closet and then instead some other camp counselor stumbles into

[40:06] the room and then you proceed to see the horror of Jason just eviscerating this poor camp counselor teenager but you can’t scream because if you scream

[40:16] you’ll give away where you are and you’ll be in a worse position that’s what it’s like it’s like I’m hiding in a closet and I can’t scream or oh it’s yes

[40:24] it’s horrible it’s like if I scream I’ll wake up the baby in the milk monster me so it’s that added level of of anxiety and it works so well and it made it so

[40:35] much scarier because instead of screaming I just like breathed really heavy and just like and just like crunched the

[40:44] controller in my hand I was just like don’t scream don’t scream and I got through I didn’t scream luckily because I will scream I’m I’m I’m not ashamed to

[40:51] say like a couple games have made me go SC the dog um but this was really intense and yeah it was I’m like why Silent Hill should have but you guys

[41:02] just why did you get through it how long did you play I played for like six minutes and it’s like nope you just gave up eh that’s not I

[41:13] got through to the the conclusion what I think Nar should be the conclusion yeah did you look up in the stairs she’s up there right yeah if you look oh that

[41:22] freaked me out I just stopped not doing it favorite was the uh the bathroom door when you heard something in it and then you go to look in the bathroom and then

[41:32] she like yeah closes it yeah your head around and closes the door just like no I almost that was that was almost a big nope moment for me I have to watch this

[41:43] I can’t play it I don’t have the PlayStation don’t watch it you need to exper with surround sound you need to play it I didn’t uninstall it you can’t

[41:50] download it anymore yeah I say like I thought they got I don’t even know how you got it Gavin did you have it from before yeah because I heard that they

[41:57] were going to take it off the store so I downloaded it and it’s just been sitting on my hard drive for months yeah and I’m like oh I got to crack into this but I

[42:04] gotta wait I gotta wait and then it was like a just a perfect time like the baby was asleep and I’m like okay I’m gonna I’m gonna try this out and it was a lot

[42:13] of fun it was just a really solid it was just the atmosphere because it’s all it is it’s just it’s a ghost house basically it’s a haunted house just a

[42:21] hallway really like it’s like one hallway it’s an lend hallway with a bathroom and a and that’s it and you just like keep

[42:29] experiencing it but you’re kind of caught in this Purgatory mind Loop psychosis and it’s just so good it’s so beautifully atmospheric that you the

[42:40] environment tells a story and you don’t really interact with anything you just you can look like zoom in and like concentrate on things but that’s about

[42:51] it that walk around that’s all you do it’s so good can’t run you can just walk can’t run just uh just wait until the um V

[43:01] PlayStation VR comes out oh people have heart attacks there’s no way but there’s no way do that people would have like PTSD yeah hey PT

[43:13] um so I oh I meant to ask did you get to the David Lynch moment no oh yeah there’s no no oh it gets it gets it interesting I watched it

[43:25] I watch the rest of it on YouTube so I know like the story of it but I did not know way wait hold on so so you were so Jeff

[43:34] you were freaked out enough to not to stop playing it but you but you found watching it online was fun okay it’s easier because you’re not there like

[43:43] you’re not in it this game kind of makes you feel there and especially with like surround sound or even headphones and I think the controller Whispers to you I’m

[43:52] not sure if it does but that’s messed up behind you and if you turn she’s not there so it’s just it’s really well done and just I didn’t want

[44:08] to give myself more stress than having two kids like you finish the game you just have a streak of gray yeah that’s it

[44:18] like here kid play this let me not it go give it to your five-year-old see what I can do this is easy goes right through he like what I was

[44:27] like that’s funny I made friends with her oh God I invited her to our house oh so yeah that was uh the extent of my gaming experience this week um I

[44:41] got a couple games on the steam Library I want to crack into there’s it to XCOM uh is the one that’s the kind of mass

[44:53] etish one with like a lot of third person cover mechanics and stuff like that I kind of want to play it just because I love the aesthetic of it the

[44:59] sort of like 50s Gman sort of vibe I really like what um fire axes did with the new XCOM series I know it’s not a related title but it got me back into

[45:10] that sort of tactical turn-based combat with like rellian government stuff like that I I’ve always loved that sort of aesthetic

[45:20] in that narrative so I think I might try to crack into that at some point I think that could be one that would be a good fight siiz one but that might not be

[45:28] till December because I am stupidly crazy busy so we’ll see I thought say it’s like t- minus Fallout you’re just like cleaning the pallet before Fallout

[45:36] 4 shows up it’s funny you mention it cuz like the um I I had a um I plowed through a bit more of Batman and I was kind of like planning out my next game

[45:47] and kind of specifically cuz having spent so much time in Hearthstone and even with rocket League where it’s kind of a game there’s no end like there’s no

[45:55] you can’t win win it right and I there’s some there’s some feeling it’s just like I want to it’s not that beating a game is a great achievement necessar no you

[46:04] know I’ll say it it’s an achievement like want to get through it play something get the story get the beginning middle end conclusion

[46:12] excellent check mark kind of move on to the next one and with those experiences as great as they are especially kind of for a diving in diving out type of thing

[46:20] which is really conducive to the small amount of time I have as a dad now it was just like I’m not achieve I’m not progressing in anything and I never will

[46:29] unless I’m going to become like a world champion of hearthstone which isn’t necessarily my plan there’s still time if I just give up everything drop

[46:39] my job I might be able to make those championships but uh no so like yeah I kind of had this moment where it say like man I should really in this gaming

[46:47] time I should progress in some way because I have so many great games to play through like for instance have not still have not played the latest a

[46:56] BioShock game oh yeah BioShock Infinite and just you know I’ve seen a ton of reviews I’ve seen like Raves about it the story and everything else like I’m

[47:05] curious to see it so like I I think in many ways I’m going to be trying to find more time in to to make to give a better better sense of accomplishment in some

[47:14] ways as far as in something as hobby is as gaming even like still just to start getting into a few more story games so that’s it’s like beginning middle end

[47:24] learn it love it beat it move on it’s like finding the ones too where they kind of get a little bit bashed for having a short campaign like

[47:34] that’s usually a big red mark on on a game review but to me that’s something I find enticing now where I’m like oh sweet okay so it’s it’s a

[47:45] manageable campaign yeah which is interesting right that’s a flip yeah yeah usually like well it’s not 400 hours so it’s not worth my money but now

[47:53] I’m like oh 10hour campaign perfect can manage that that’s perfect it’s it’s a and what’s nice too is you don’t have to memorize an entire codex

[48:04] of information you know with appendixes and all these subcategories of like oh this you see these these monsters are actually descendants of these monsters

[48:13] you’re like I don’t care I don’t care let kill it care can I hit it with a shotgun okay that’s fine oh no I use a flamethrower okay like I just don’t I

[48:24] don’t like I used to but even in like pre-ad gaming I just I don’t know I just didn’t care that much like I wanted the I wanted to know the emotional toll of

[48:35] the characters I didn’t really care about their genealogical lineage I just wanted to so some games especially fantasy RPG is quite guilty of this

[48:45] sometimes where it can just get so in depth with the World building and I commend those who really dig it follow it because it takes a special memory

[48:56] part of your brain to be able to analyze and retain all that information well man like the the books in Skyrim right like crazy there’s like there’s some books

[49:06] that there’s 12 books you have to find to get the entire story like man like re they’re like 12-page books each so in game you’re sitting there running around

[49:17] and having like a readon like it’s nuts you’re reading in a video game how yeah the kid the kid stops like wait

[49:26] a minute you’re reading books you’re making me read yeah it’s like in Skyrim to solve one of the Tomb puzzles to get it to

[49:35] open up it’s like all of a sudden it turns out to be just a big old long division problem wait a

[49:42] second more it’s like descri describe how this this in this book series describe how the character grew and

[49:54] comp 100 words signs there’s a wizard like blocking the treasure and it’s like you have to give a book report to get past

[50:02] them you don’t use Fireballs or a sword or anything you just you you you talk about the human condition and character development and they like you may

[50:11] pass jeez but it’s kind of curious because the um we’re getting a little bit short on time so I don’t go too much of a tangent but I mean I’m one of the

[50:19] mechanic that is starting to present itself a lot in gaming is hacking and a lot with hacking like where you can and change like I’ve seen three or four

[50:27] games that there’s a oh man I I’m sad that I’m missing the the name of this one but like where you could actually as the charact you’re playing in an

[50:36] unfinished video game and you can run around and you can actually eventually you get kind of Godlike powers where you can go into enemies and characters and

[50:44] other parts of the world and change its code so that it’s like instead of being uh Angry it’s friendly or you can change its life or you can change its Behavior

[50:53] or its patterns any number of things and like I’ve now seen like a good string of like three or four games that use this type of mechanic and it gets

[51:01] pretty pretty deep in like some of them it’s like literally a code editor where it’s like oh well here’s his health stat I’ll just reduce that to zero and like

[51:11] boom you’re done so you’re having like this coding that’s like slowly starting to work its way into gaming you have to have you have to wonder

[51:19] if that becomes kind of like a common mechanic for folks like how much easier it’ll be for those kids to pick up actual coding later on it’s like oh

[51:28] that’s like that game you just have to edit those variables and off that goes maybe it depends too on how authentic the game designers make the

[51:38] coding to real coding or if they’re just making like a puzzle mechanic that is entertaining and it’s it’s figuring out which that is um I did a game Jam last

[51:50] year or like back in the last winter um with uh with a guy I’m buddies with and we made this like you know that scene in Jurassic Park where Lex has to hack the

[52:04] Unix system to get the door locked yeah so we made like a little game where you would be searching for files within like a Unix system there’d be like a little

[52:14] like clippy type character would come up and harass you and um basically just like 90s uh operating system jokes left right

[52:25] Center and the hacking would literally just masch the keyboard until you fill a line of code and then hit enter but the lines of code the length would vary on

[52:33] each line so once you started typing in red characters you’d have to erase the red characters then hit enter so that’s how you would figure out if you hit the

[52:41] end of that line it was just mashing but it felt really good but it had nothing to do with coding but that’s how you would hack a security node to further

[52:50] your progression in the game um yeah some of this stuff I’m actually seeing like it’s variables it’s if statements so so that’s proper

[53:00] coding yeah so it’s getting it’s so man I’ll be interesting to see if it kind of takes off like you obviously have some issues because like if you’re solving

[53:07] deep down like computer problems like I don’t know how much of a video game it turns into but um yeah it’s like the it’s like those old video games uh

[53:18] growing up like in school that the teachers would let you play but it was all just math oh yeah remember it was like you

[53:26] get computer time and you’re like sweet I get to go oh I got to battle this bad guy and it’s like you just had to solve like a logorithm to get the bad guy to

[53:37] explode or like um there’s those typing games like a type the dead and stuff like that where they would take those are fun those rail shooters from the

[53:47] arcade and they would make it so you’d have to type and if you got your characters right then the zombie head would explode and be like ah sweet but

[53:54] if you messed up the fail so like this edutainment in gaming is is still has been around for a while and it just sounds like it’s shifting

[54:03] now to um not just basic skills like math and typing but to more complex comprehension like uh like with with coding and problem solving using Code so

[54:16] yeah that’s curious but I think it’s going to be exclusively obviously a PC market because it’s hard thing to yeah to do with it with a keyboard

[54:23] comfortably at least so so there we go it so all in PC is still the best fantastic I I love to see them try to translate those math skills math games

[54:36] to real life or sorry sir we’re not going to be able to upgrade your seat Well 2 plus 4 equals 6 just like like oh you’re not dying

[54:46] damn it it’s like you you confront like a real hostile individual it’s like 2 am in the morning and somebody pulls a knife on you like give me your wallet

[54:54] it’s like I will if you can solve this math problem yeah and then you just spew one at them and then they cut you and take your money and that’s

[55:06] it or I prefer to think that he uh he appreciates the education you know shakes your hand and you both go away slightly the Richer for different

[55:14] reasons you you explain the the the concepts of math that they weren’t perhaps grasping that we’re holding them back from you know a life of not mugging

[55:23] people and then uh and then they become an MP you know so oh geez all right that could Veer off into

[55:34] dangerous territory so on that wonderful note I think we will wrap it up for the week if thank you so much for listening if you’d like to get a hold of us please

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[55:56] so all the share subscribe like and everything else you do with fine fine podcasts we’ll see you next week folks and as always I’m Trevor and I have a

[56:07] five-month-old I’m Gavin I have an almost three month old I’m Jeff who I’m Jeff two and a half year old and a 5-year

[56:17] old you okay there something happened on the computer your Mac break or something I oh no it’s always stable what are you talking about

[56:27] peace super stable wonderful great you guys we’ll see you next week later see

[56:38] [Applause] you that had a lemonade stand they had a lemonade stand they were selling liquid in

[56:51] liquid yeah but SpongeBob does that too like SpongeBob is like a show targeted at like older Stoners Like It’s Not Meant For

[57:03] Kids like this is like literally just for like tots and it’s like the laziest thing like you’re telling me you can’t possibly sell seaweed salad like or

[57:14] starfish uh sparklers something like for the show I swear take take random C item attach nonc item to it and then sell that thing and you have an episode like

[57:27] lemonade lemonade come on he’s so angry at it it’s great you’re gonna look I’ve never seen him this mad

[57:36] this is there’s one that they teach you that there’s a bear that lives on the moon it’s called the moon bear and they dance

[57:44] and they have a song about it my kid was afraid of the moon bear for a long time until I informed him there’s no such thing as a moon bear

[57:55] that they were sad like he’s like oh okay thank you I can close my curtain now and go to sleep oh yeah was he just staring at the

[58:04] Moon waiting for the bear to jump at him probably I don’t know what he was thinking but I would have I I would keep that one just in case though oh yeah

[58:14] just yeah in case he acts out moon bear just be like hey the moon bear kids who don’t go to bed get attacked by the moon bear eviscerated by the moon bear uhoh

[58:24] moon bear is gonna eat your toes