Episode 6 | New Dad Gaming

[0:08] welcome everybody the coffee and beers are poured the little ones are asleep and this is new dad gaming a show about fatherhood gaming and new fathers trying

[0:17] to figure out their gaming lives my name is Trevor and I have a four-month-old my name is Gavin I have a two-month old I’m Jeff I have a 2 and a

[0:26] halfy old and a 5-year-old every week he leads a baby count Gavin we got to catch up more babies this this week I’ve adopted six

[0:36] kids and I’ve officially taken the lead you guys TS twins oh so many babies so yeah Gavin start with you how was your week in

[0:47] fatherhood and gaming uh fatherhood was uh exciting we went on our first big family trip because uh um it was Thanksgiving weekend uh to you listeners

[0:57] who are not Canadian that was Thanksgiving weekend um so yeah we had did a nice big road trip saw lots of family two

[1:05] separate dinners it was uh it was good but uh yeah it was definitely definitely Tire tiring at the end um but no she was she was a good little traveler so that

[1:14] was a lot of fun and uh uh as far as gaming and stuff’s been going it’s uh been playing a little bit here and there I’ve been enjoying um working my way

[1:24] through the two Metro games uh I find that that game’s been a good little uh nice little chapters that I can usually uh squeeze in here and there quite

[1:33] easily but yeah um but I hav been gaming a whole whole bunch last few days because uh you know work work’s been quite busy so between just you know

[1:43] wanting to be a active dad and also trying to make sure that jobs are getting done so I can uh buy diapers uh yeah so all in all it’s been

[1:54] good though I’ve been able to get a little bit in here and there at least to uh you know end a nice day how’s your uh how’s your baby with the family pass

[2:02] around so as an ant and Uncle want to hold her you just toss them off how how does she handle it she pretty chill but then when she’s like H I don’t want to

[2:10] anymore she’ll do a quick little cry and then she’ll get handed off to either myself or or my wife and then she usually quiets up pretty quick uh which

[2:19] is nice I’m happy that I can calm her down as efficiently as Mommy so that’s that’s good it’s not just the mommy show um until it’s time to feed and then she

[2:27] doesn’t want anything to do with me but but uh no she she’s a pretty good sport about it um we’re also kind of like we we try

[2:36] to like feel her out as far as like okay is she in the right mood to be like you know hot potatoed or can we like maybe just tell those ants they might have to

[2:47] just wait a little while before we pass her around I’m not sure how your little one is there Trevor what about you Jeff were yours uh

[2:56] pass around or mine will go with any one right now with food so this weekend is great like to the point of being a a

[3:08] hazard like go with anybody with food right now it just takes some stress off so sure go go go yeah no they’re they’re fine with the going anywhere pretty much

[3:20] um especially at this age they just want to be entertained so long like a cup of crayons and like a turkey leg and just send them off into the wild crayons a

[3:30] snack it’s leave them out not a problem so how was your week otherwise with gaming in the family uh it was good again Thanksgiving weekend so it was a

[3:40] lot of work really usually the long holidays before kids would be great extra day to game but now you have to host and um play dad and stuff so uh we

[3:50] actually had a third kid over uh friends had a family emergency so I had three I will never have three it was a lot a lot to handle it’s like

[4:02] the baby shows up you’re like you know maybe we could do three and it’s like fast forward to an hour later like we’re never doing not going to do it then you

[4:08] you fast forward to Tuesday Morning where he’s booking a vasectomy yeah sorry guys I’m on ice right now just no we’ll not have three um but it

[4:18] was it was a good weekend it was a lots of family lots of food gaming wise it was a new month of uh ps+ so I got Super Meat Boy on there tried that that’s

[4:29] stressful but still fun pick up did you snap your controller did you so hard to do it was fun it was good cool I’ve been wanting to try that one I

[4:40] I have PlayStation but I just I’ve never really invested in PlayStation Plus because I find my gaming quite sporadic right now especially with work the way

[4:49] it is so it’s like I see Super Meat Boy I’m like well if I had that nice little plus sign I I could just download it and enjoy it but I’m like yeah but uh

[5:00] I don’t know I think I think when I get you know to a stage closer to you where uh your kids have a little bit more of a bedtime and right now it’s actually

[5:07] going quite well uh Lindsay has been fantastic with with uh getting the little one into a routine so uh one day I might it might be worth the investment

[5:19] because right now it would just that investment would just wither away Into The Ether yeah yeah I think with um I think You’ find Super Meat Boy actually

[5:27] is pretty good for you and even with it runs pretty low specs if you buy it for PC and as far as Steam sales like it’s popular enough and it’s old enough

[5:35] you’re going to find that thing for like a buck like very been on my radar I I think it was actually even on my wish list for a bit for steam but yeah keep

[5:43] an eye because like the yeah it it pops up on sales quite often as far as like that quick little snaps of games especially just like five minute little

[5:51] bits like you can definitely get that in like pop try to get through a couple levels and move on and the controls are insanely well done like so so good yeah

[6:00] there was one that I played similar fashion called they believe pixels it was developed by a uh Toronto Studio I think it was uh oh spooky squid spooky

[6:10] squid games I think um but yeah it was this kind of love crafty and platformer but the same sort of deal where it’s like you’re GNA die a

[6:19] lot and uh sort of this uh retro sque graphics and it was it was pretty cool and a buddy of mine actually did the uh soundtrack for it and it was it was

[6:29] pretty fun but yeah those types of games I like them but then sometimes I just get too they R me up I can’t relax playing them like I can other

[6:39] games yeah the um so I can say from my side for the gaming a um an interesting one is I played the star or Star Wars Battlefront beta oh right yeah yeah yeah

[6:51] I got in on part of that and that was yeah that is surprising like it’s for a game to live up to expectations like that

[7:00] I mean it’s early days yet like we’ll see where they they go with it but as far as getting in feeling a sense of scale feeling like it is Star Wars the

[7:07] the menus and the graphics and how beautiful everything was going in you have relatively high expectations and to have them met by a property like this

[7:15] was really kind of astounding like it’s really kind of like an arru moment as you’re playing through some of them like like how did you nail this so well yeah

[7:24] found the Battlefield games very atmospheric for fully work and and visuals like they got they were able to capture the heat of battle very well so

[7:32] I knew as soon as they got a hold of the Star Wars property and were able to get their their sound effect library and all that you know then you you add in just

[7:41] the ability of having the scale of like the the adats and and the the snow Speeders and stuff like it just adds to it yeah so just it was stunning although

[7:52] there there’s a couple moments of uh there’s one mode where it’s you and friends and you take on waves of enemy enemy

[8:00] blast like just awesome time like I got a couple buddies who like the game so it’s going to be I think in the future great mode like just so much fun there’s

[8:08] another mode that’s just more classic team versus team player versus player and that not so much because it seems it seems like there’s a bit of a reward

[8:16] system for levels so if you’re higher level it’s kind of easier to kill people or you have a better load at whatever it is and I just died so often and and you

[8:25] know let’s set the table I’m a terrible I’m not that good at video games and toally imagine that I just just I don’t want it to come off with sour grapes But

[8:35] but so I’ve commonly even when I’m playing it’s just like you know what I’m not going to be top of the list I’m GNA die a bunch that’s fine but there’s a

[8:41] very distinct difference between oh you know I’m just not clearly I don’t know what I’m doing and I like I got the better of me and you get a couple shots

[8:48] and still fun and there’s another one where it’s like step step dead step step step dead step step and you’re like this is just an exercise of futility there

[8:58] there’s no benefit to me playing this at this point and a couple of the maps it definitely was that um I think they’ll do a little bit better job of pairing in

[9:06] the future as far as matching Folks up but if they don’t like I think again that kind of becomes a place where I don’t know as a dad I’m this is a game

[9:14] I’m going to dedicate so much time into that a I’m talented enough and B I’m leveled enough to get a good experience into it and it’s you know it’s a bit of

[9:24] like just having lost an edge from player versus player did you hear about the season’s pass it’s about 50 bucks plus the game so you’re spending

[9:34] like 110 well if you buy a PS4 version I don’t know about a steam version but’ll

[9:43] come yeah that’s a man that is that’s a pricey way to get killed constantly they include maps in those they’re just going to separate their you know Their

[9:52] audience anyway not to like burst your bubble yeah oh you popped it good yeah kind of depends I think there’s hopefully enough meat there I think

[10:02] again if they do matchmaking well like I’ll be able to get in and have a pretty good time with some of the the maps like the player versus player the wave stuff

[10:09] I have a couple buddies who have it so I think that will be enough meat I’ll enjoy it and again like it’s such an on inspiring experience as far as how well

[10:17] they’ve nailed it that it looks good but there’s just some of those warning flags that as I’m coming into it as a dad it’s like yeah yeah you got worried about a

[10:26] few of these things I’m not sure you’re going to be able to really Target me as far like know maybe I’m not really one of their targets obviously

[10:33] but maybe you’re not really going to be able to offer me the experience that I would get yeah or would want I should say and otherwise you know bit of

[10:41] hearthstone and kind of classic stuff but uh sneak that in there as always yeah so yeah funny the only other great

[10:51] experence so we traveled as well um generally pretty everything went well uh business related I came up to Ottawa recently so that’s a from Toronto that’s

[11:00] a 4 and a half hour drive which so 4month old and it was so do so dicey as far as like what is this going to be like we’ve done it once he

[11:09] had just the worst night of his life and it took us something in the neighborhood of about six to seven hours to drive up we had to keep stopping and helping him

[11:18] out oh yeah this time he slept the entire time and we made it in like four hours and 10 minutes it was beautiful that’s amazing like there were there was

[11:29] a there’s there’s a CH time when he was sleeping my wife was sleeping we’re a little bit low on gas and we’re passing what is ultimately the last like on

[11:37] Route last gas station before Ottawa before i’ had to make kind of the final stretch and it’s so tempting to get in because like I need a break we need gas

[11:46] but they’re sleeping gun it they’re just like grabbing the wheel like nope we’re going to Auto we’re going to make it we’re doing this get

[11:55] out and push we’re just doing this not stopping doing home I have to oh but it it was beautiful probably a bit of the trick is really like doing doing these

[12:05] trips at night I remember my parents I don’t know if you guys had similar experiences we traveled we drove a lot at night for big ones just so the kids

[12:12] would knock off and my kid stay up it doesn’t matter it sucks they stay up they watch the moon and they’re like look the moon’s out I’m

[12:22] like you should really be asleep it’s 11 o’ no but why would I sleep when the moon’s out exactly it’s too interesting awes burst your bubble again thanks

[12:33] buddy kidding I’m having a terrible night this is like yeah games are too expensive and your kids aren’t going to

[12:43] sleep I kind of off up to the group before we kind of get into a topic is I’m finding um so we’re four months probably

[12:50] about four and a half months with a kid I’m finding this to be a pretty difficult time in fatherhood where we’ve survived four

[12:59] months like we did it right we got through what I’d say some some of the scariest stuff of uh newborn um everything he’s doing right

[13:08] now is so fascinating and so funny like laughing playing he’s starting to realize things new sounds like that that’s astounding amazing but it’s kind

[13:17] of the realization like so we’ve come so far it’s been four grueling months like exhausted tiring like really difficult just part and parcel of how this goes

[13:27] but I’m like looking out into the future and it’s like like there’s no real no real break in sight necessarily like at the best case in two months he

[13:37] might start sleeping through the night and that’s the best case in the worst case it might be another eight months before he starts sleeping through the

[13:43] night so you’ll be good you’ll be good yeah you should be fine solid foods are like lights well that’s the thing is the

[13:53] solid food takes longer to digest so they’re not getting woken up by hunger so once you get them on like a cereal before bed like that was the one thing

[14:01] that uh Lindsay’s ma was mentioning that you know she would give Lindsay’s mom cereal before bed and that would just put her down for the count um and just

[14:12] it was just like a little bit of like rice pum but it was just that little bit of solid food for their tummy to work through that really did sealed the deal

[14:20] we did like um when you hit the solid food stage you just do anything you’re eating really so like steaks um uh if you’re just comfortable

[14:30] with them eating like finger food give them like just lump of steak right it’s awesome they just suck the juice out and like they’re out like lights later I’m

[14:39] out like a light so you’re telling me your kids are beef vampires oh yeah easy they cost a lot of money later

[14:48] on look over yeah piece of beef is just like dust it’s like how did you get that much moisture what is this I cooked it medium rare yeah so obviously you know

[14:58] you hope for the best but but like you know more commonly I find here the horror stories and you know a guy at work didn’t get his kid to go down till

[15:05] he they were like a year and four months I think that’s a bit of an edge case like that’s particularly bad but yeah you know it’s just like we’ve come all

[15:12] this way you always hear the rough stories though like that’s the thing is that people who have like who are are doing fine with putting their kid to bed

[15:20] they tend not to talk about it because they don’t want to jinx it yeah so like you don’t hear the oh things are going fine like it’s because like it’s not as

[15:31] exciting of a thing to talk about you know usually it’s the uh the squeaky wheel so to speak and and I think when people go through really rough stuff

[15:40] they need that sense of of solidarity and they need to get it off their chest but there’s there’s a lot of cases out there where things go just fine and the

[15:48] you know the kid might be up a lot one night but then they’ll sleep a good chunk the other night and eventually you find a rhythm and and and there’s like

[15:57] this you know a light at the end of the tunnel but you just don’t hear about it that very often because it’s always people like oh my kid didn’t sleep

[16:06] through the night till they were 15 and nursing until they’re 15 it was it was it was bad it was rough it was it was rough yeah so yeah so I remain

[16:19] hopeful it’s just I I think I was kind of been looking at it U not retrospectively or introspectively some particular word but

[16:29] as catching catching and sitting and thinking of it in a moment of time as far as like we’ve come so far it’s already been four and a half months

[16:34] which is wild to think about and it’s so amazing to watch him but like yeah like next uh it’s a tiring point I’m funny just getting past this one and it’s

[16:45] again like at least he’s the stuff he’s doing is so energetic or energizing to me to see like him acting and starting to get that personality and the stuff

[16:53] he’s doing like it’s so awesome to see but yeah it look sometimes into the future but what’s what what’s kind of like that next

[17:00] helpful phase and when is it you know when would that come around we’ll see well apparently there was a study that too much sleep is just as bad for

[17:09] you is not enough so you know oh there you go oh great I’m getting healthy well that that that that’ll help yeah so I’m gonna be up there it’s 4:30 in the

[17:18] morning and I’m rocking desperately trying to get him to sleep I’m like well getting healthy at least I’m getting healthy man all that time on the yoga

[17:25] ball oh man fantastic core it’s so strong H wonderful so the um so we mentioned uh they bleed pixels we talked a little bit about Super Meat Boy um as

[17:38] a nice segue both of those exist in a very long queue of Steam games that I currently have probably sitting in what I think at this point over the course of

[17:48] my entire history behind game something in the neighborhood of a couple hundred or so just big packs of them the the dreaded backlog the dreaded cue of games

[18:00] it’s before we had kids it was something we were worried about as far as so many great games coming out so much to play so much to experience how will I ever

[18:09] experience them all and now our time has been reduced so thoroughly like possibly down to like the single digit percentiles as far as

[18:19] what we can dedicate to games what what is to do about the backlog is it sacrifices just you know signing the eating things so you never

[18:29] don’t have to see the fact that you’re never going to play them uh playing less game like playing less thoroughly for games not finishing them being happy

[18:37] yeah the gentlemen as now fathers what are you going to do about your backlog in games you’ve missed impulse control when it comes to

[18:51] sales else not not adding to the problem I think is the first step um no I think like cheap I know I know it’s only a dollar

[19:02] man I think well I think that’s the thing too is the factor of um you have to be able to just like Let It Go kind of thing where you see the game and it’s

[19:12] like oh I’m gonna get it and it’s like two bucks okay fine I’ll get it two bucks if you spend as much time with that game as you do with a cup of coffee

[19:20] you’ve made your money like you youve made your money work um I think being less concerned about completing a game and seeing it through to the end it’s

[19:28] like well if you didn’t invest that much financially in the game you shouldn’t feel an obligation to invest that much as far as time um so if you do just buy

[19:37] a game for a couple bucks and and you play it for even an afternoon then it’s like okay well you know my the amount of money I put into this thing and the

[19:45] amount of enjoyment I got out of it you know it’s still a better bang for my buck than going out to the movies um as far as dollars per hour so I I think

[19:57] being less precious about it and letting the it you know the backlog will exist it’s just part of life and you’re just like yeah it’s like any other there’s

[20:06] always something to do around the house there’s always like a you know a fixer uper job like oh I should really repaint that piece of furniture I should fix

[20:15] that thing and fix that thing but unless it’s you know an imposing Danger on your family this immediate second some of those things just get kind of well

[20:25] that’s another Sunday to work on that kind of thing so I think the same could be said for game backlogs just you know they’re no big deal they exist you get

[20:33] to it when you get to it if you don’t get to it at least you only spent a couple bucks if the game back log is a bunch of like uh Star Wars Battlefront

[20:41] then you got a problem because you’ve invested thousands of dollars super season pass like $10,000 the Omega pass you just own everything

[20:52] ever published from here until your death see I I had steam killed me when I had a machine that could run anything at the time steam sales killed me when the

[21:05] Humble Bumble bundle came out that would kill me because you get six or seven well also there’s parity involved with humble bundles like you’re like I’m

[21:14] doing a good thing here exactly I’m Dona to charity why don’t you just donate to charity why do you have to buy a bunch of games you’re not going to play at the

[21:21] same time like but I’m doing something so it’s not about me it’s about the children like I about the children which now I have but somebody please think of

[21:29] the children get these games but my PC rig died a while ago and we were starting to think about kids so I couldn’t get another gaming PC so I had

[21:44] to stick with my Mac and uh for my business and then get a console so steam left me and along with a lot of games that I just had to kind of set aside

[21:59] but I wasn’t exposed to new ones right I couldn’t do it I’ve bought one game that I said I will play when I do get a PC and I bought it but other than that I

[22:09] haven’t like the steam sales are crazy and you can get 15 games in a day and not bat and I with the console you really have to think they’re expensive

[22:18] now especially in Canada you have to really think about it and wait um I’m currently waiting for a couple sales and the only backlog I get are ps+ games so

[22:27] they’re already free so I don’t don’t have any real attachment to them and I can kind of attack those when I can the bigger games I have that I just haven’t

[22:37] finished so like Dragon Age I have to go back and I don’t know I might just give up on that one it’s just sometimes you make a call but steam steam used to kill

[22:47] me I would say avoid steam with a backlog or you have like a chip like you earn every month kind of like a you’ve done one month without a steam purchase

[22:57] here’s your chip um you gotta have some will just like the I guess the thing that I’ve almost worry about is the um I

[23:07] I’m slowly starting to get off that curve I think I very much was in the mode of just acquiring like I used to acquire games especially like Humble

[23:14] Bundle like you said just like the sales are just absurd like five bucks and you’re getting like 10 decent size titles and you know and some of it’s

[23:22] been great because for instance I got um the last two Batman games I picked up on such sales probably about five bucks a piece with a decent amount of DLC and

[23:30] played decent amount of both of those even the amount that I’ve currently played Origins uh I’d be happy with if even I didn’t finish it like that was

[23:37] that’s been so relatively rewarding for me U but I see some stuff like like BioShock Infinite which was held it as a

[23:46] beautiful game like the reviews of it and not just yeah this is fun you kill people great it’s when they’re talking about the Arts and the aesthetic and how

[23:54] what a movement it was the music like it’s it’s in some ways feels like you’re missing what was like a classic film right like this is the movie to see and

[24:04] it’s really defining as far as a gaming part and then now it’s $5 so it’s inside of it so so I’m having a bit of a struggle where it’s like um like one one

[24:15] thing where I’ve kind of choked on for instance would be maybe like rocket League which I picked up I was able to get a pretty decent sale on it picked it

[24:21] up have not installed and have not played it oh know I keep I keep thinking like I’m worried I’m not I’m just going to miss it like by the time I get in oh

[24:30] yeah let’s do this and just crickets no one else plays the game um well I think that’s the thing too is like there are games where like

[24:40] with Bioshock where you can you can you know that it’s something worth experiencing so you pick it up but it’s a single player experience so it’s not

[24:51] really time sensitive and at some point you get a chance to explore that world and a lot of times with those games where it is like this is a world worth

[25:00] exploring however you will explore the most necessary components to be enveloped in that atmosphere and that and that Mythos uh in the first 20 30

[25:12] minutes so you don’t have to really worry it’s it’s not as big of a commitment um but then you have things like rocket League where it is time

[25:21] sensitive in regards to popularity and it might you know uh hold the test of time um but it could also be a thing where

[25:30] something else will come out like uh I don’t know uh trampoline juggling and you’ll go to that game and everybody else will start

[25:41] playing that and then you’ll be left in the rocket League servers um so yeah it’s a Time sense of things so you can kind of Judge accordingly but I think

[25:50] picking up a game for five bucks because you know like it’s been well reviewed and it’s and it’s a world you want to explore like I have uh Darksiders uh on

[25:58] my Steam account um because uh the artists who worked on it and the voice actors who were in it and just everything I’ve read about the game I

[26:09] hear it’s it’s it’s got some really really uh quality components to it apparently the sequel was even better but I’m like yeah I like to work things

[26:19] through and sometimes I like the original even you know warts and all um but I haven’t even installed it yet you know it’s been in my library for

[26:26] probably over a year and I got it for like five bucks but um it’s it’s like finding a book in a used bookstore and you’re like oh I’ve

[26:33] always wanted to read that book and that’s only five bucks yeah I’ll pick it up and then it sits on your shelf for like a decade and then you finally crack

[26:39] into it and you’re like oh I’m so happy I picked it up way years back like thank you past me future Mees happy I hope that’s a case there’s just

[26:49] some that are really daunting so I think you know by bi shck infinite um relatively contained you know I think like you’d be able to chip away at it

[26:58] baby goes to sleep you get your hour two hours whatever it is Chip it away um but and you get like unless you’re connected to the narrative you get everything you

[27:05] need from it pretty quick and then it’s just more of that world and I think about um but for instance uh as an embarrassing gaming um

[27:17] confession I’ve never played Fallout 3 oh that’s fine all right I’m done really I never like Fallout I know’s gonna kill me I never like Fallout

[27:29] okay well I just like my my brother Raves about like I I hear people raving about it and even if I got into it didn’t like it fine but to have never

[27:35] even touched it but then I look at it I look at that in my queue get out of here right and it’s like baby went to sleep I have maybe 20 minutes maybe an hour

[27:45] whatever whatever he’s going to stay for and it’s like do I dare even like start to get into that one and everything else coming along or is it better to start

[27:54] getting into the time sensitive rocket League stuff and and in some senses now it feels like I’ve missed it like I I don’t know that Fallout 3 would ever be

[28:06] an option for me and I might have missed it now which wor which worries me even for future games as far as I’ve missed that experience now other ones are going

[28:13] to come out and you know with new family responsibilities it’s just I’m gonna have to miss some of the experiences you are right in the sense of like a

[28:22] daunting experience because that’s like Bethesda games are time syncs so by missing that like yeah you’re to get into it maybe with a

[28:33] four-month-old that might not be the best call however I’m awaiting November 10th so I can pick up fall four um even though I’ll have like a three-month-old

[28:45] at the time um but that’s another game where you know within the first hour or two you have an idea of the environment you’re

[28:54] in you’ve you’ve you’ve done the rudimentary exploration that aesthetic uh it also comes down to how much do you really want to do the

[29:04] multiplayer type game and what style of gaming you’re interested in and there’s some games that are more uh like time sens of like with

[29:14] multiplayer and there’s other ones that can sit for a bit um it just depends on which which type you want to fill up your backlog because they both will and

[29:24] usually the time sensitive multiplayer stuff like uh like Battlefront um or or rocket League they will usurp the ones that are more single

[29:33] player base but the single player based ones often take a little bit more time to really sink your teeth into so it’s a seesaw I I can relate to Trevor with um

[29:46] Skyrim so I never played Skyrim when it came out uh I bought it on discount for PS3 just because I had a console and I got into a little bit of it but I also

[29:59] find with technology that’s Advanced any door you went into it had a load like on the PS3 right so I don’t know PC it’s probably lightning quit but I canot do

[30:09] it I because you have to go into so many things in the cities and explore everything and get the story it just broke it for me so I find if you do wait

[30:18] too long there’s almost technology that um goes against you where you know now if I Dragon Age you can walk in and out no problem unless you enter a new area

[30:28] but in that same note with uh with Skyrim playing it on the PC now uh cuz I played it on the 360 and then I played it again on the PC because that was

[30:38] before I had a kid and I apparently didn’t want to spend my time doing anything else so with that I found the PC because it had been so long since

[30:47] this release that the load times were almost non-existent yeah I could see that so then because of that length of time the technology has become so just

[30:59] you know over like overpowered in comparison to the needs of the of the software that uh standard Hardware will handle it and it’ll just load up like

[31:08] you’re playing you know the original DSX where it’s just like boom okay a giant square kilometer environment just popped into view immediately uh because it’s

[31:19] like 18 boxes um so yeah I find that sometimes the uh duration of time that you’re back log a lots for really allows you to get

[31:31] the mileage out of those games you can play them with like Max settings on on something relatively modest I know when I go to play Darksiders I’ll be able to

[31:40] crank everything to 11 and and enjoy it and the second my second playthrough of Skyrim uh that was when I loaded it up and had oh just select whatever settings

[31:51] you think my computer can run and I didn’t don’t really have like a really super computer but it was like oh yeah you can play on Ultimate like oh all

[31:58] right awesome so you get to experience something more so than maybe what you have at the time of its release would allow you

[32:06] to but uh one quick note about backlogs too I meant to mention earlier is one of the things that I find helps me from allowing mine to grow too quickly is

[32:16] whenever there’s a steam sale this is where my willpower kicks in is I’ll go and pick up a uh like a steam Wallet card and I’m like okay this is my budget

[32:29] Ste so I don’t use a credit card so I I don’t allow my steam purchases to exceed a lot and what’s funny is sometimes like I’ll

[32:41] have like 874 left on the card and I’ll try to find a combination of games that use up you’re describing an addiction it’s great it’s

[32:55] it if I this coupon code here and then I trade this for this it’ll be like 74 cents and I can grab that guy instead I’ll get the skin pack I don’t

[33:07] really need it but totally can get it but it fits in perfectly it does yeah there’s been times where like i’ I’ve had one cent left in my wallet I’ve got

[33:16] so close to zeroing it truth you’re just you’re just watching for the one-cent game like come on somebody somebody’s gonna sell like a

[33:25] boot DLC for like

[33:32] it’s just I think it’s like a certain yeah I think there’s a bit of willpower I think I guess like in buying things it it’s a different way it’s now

[33:41] in fatherhood it’s a different way to think about how you acquire games and then how you approach them when it comes time to actually play through those ones

[33:51] and you know it’s probably now just the and something that I’m kind of learning is when picking things up is is this I I don’t want to say

[34:00] Timeless I don’t want to give them like it has to be this beautiful amazing experience but is this when I play this thing if I get to it in two years will I

[34:08] really enjoy the experience still if um if it sits there for a bit if I play do I really want to play this game from both of a time constraint is it really

[34:17] that great and you know as I kind of mentioned a previous podcast as far as uh when I was playing Assassin’s Creed 2 getting to a point and like felt good F

[34:28] satiated the next bits are kind of a grind don’t really feel like it full stop just abort like get out of it and so it’s yes just the whole um it’s a

[34:39] maturing in an education I think now at this point as far as what what it means to acquire games and what it means to actually play them like go back and play

[34:48] them because it’s the our context for playing a video game is just flipped on its head yeah well we get to know our taste you know and it’s like like we

[34:58] don’t uh certain vices that we like to indulge in um become more streamlined in regards to that Indulgence you know uh it’s a very dad thing to you know rather

[35:15] than like oh well I’ll just get the the cheapest pint of beer I can find it’s like well no I have I finally have an opportunity to sit down and have a pint

[35:22] of beer I’m going to have a nice one um I’m not not going to go full College student and just get any old pint of swill so I think the same lime in this

[35:32] beer that sounds delicious that sounds awesome beer Gita sign me up um so I I think what ends up happening is with gaming is it’s you know your taste and

[35:45] you know like even if the game is of a high pedigree um you know it’s like yeah but it’s just not my cup of tea like I I know from my experience before having a

[35:54] kid that anytime I’ve played these games I usually wound up either just being fatigued by it or just disinterested and so you know not to

[36:06] bother and you just let those games rest like I Know Myself uh Dragon Age Inquisition just it doesn’t really doesn’t Tickle My Fancy um I know it’s a

[36:18] quality game I know people really like it but I’m probably never going to play it and I’m I’m fine with that uh just because it’s the style of gameplay that

[36:26] I’m like yeah you know what as far as fantasy RPG goes it’s a you know a little too heavy with this not enough of that uh but that’s just my taste and I

[36:36] know my taste now so it’s like okay well why bother adding that to the queue of games that I already know I’m probably not going to get around to it’s like if

[36:43] I’m going to build up a backlog it might as well be a backlog of the top shelf stuff in regards to its relationship to what I enjoy doing with my spare

[36:54] time but yeah yeah I think it’s uh yeah I think it’s it’s education learning and you know I think it’s conscious thought like honestly as

[37:05] far as at this like welcome to fatherhood you now have you now have a baby yep and you need to think about this you know not in a way of reprimand

[37:17] like not reprimanding people is like well you have you have children now you got to think about it it’s just much more like look brother uh you only got

[37:24] so you only got so much time in a day time right it’s the time like let’s say you put Battlefront off for two years and then went back to it

[37:32] like you would go back to a multiplayer experience that has crazy experts running around killing everybody and you really have to think do I want to put

[37:43] the time in at that point to learn the game and get competitive at it right whereas if if anybody I mean two years well yeah true two years shelf life like

[37:54] the next the thought that they wouldn’t have another version or there’s like eight hardcore people left on the server that’s it and they’re in this like like

[38:03] sniper Mexican standoff Style on either end of the map and that’s it there’s just like five Darth Vaders and like two Luke Skywalkers and a Yoda they’re all

[38:13] equally spaced around Hoth and they’re all just staring at the center of the map waiting for somebody to make the first move and they’ve been at that for

[38:20] a year and a half look a new that’s the future of Gam but if you said the same thing for like a single player so that’s Bioshock you

[38:32] would get all the DLC for cheap you get the game for cheap and then you could put it off and go into like the complete experience and and play it right and get

[38:43] a sense of that world the remastered Edition yeah like double remaster yeah super Edition 4K Edition yeah yeah actually that’s a really good point

[38:53] about it allowing like waiting for things to I guess become cheap um and if anything that’s kind of the reason why these

[39:05] backlogs exist we don’t have these backlogs by buying things at full launch price yeah no we have these backlogs because it’s like yeah I pay that for it

[39:15] um and I think that could be kind of part of it as well is that like I I know back when I was first starting off with my art career you know you don’t really

[39:26] have a lot of extra scratch for video games and a lot of it was like oh yeah no I’m gonna this sounds like a great game but like I’m going to wait for it

[39:35] to popularity to die down enough for its price to get more to something within my budget yeah and uh but then like you know or back with the 360 just you know

[39:46] rifling through used game pins and being like oh cool that’s two for 10 all right and Tony Haw Five for 10 cents yeah take it oh I love that too because that’s the

[40:00] thing is the backlog isn’t just a digital distribution issue it’s also uh like a used game issue and I’m not sure if we’re going to see that as much in

[40:08] this generation it hasn’t been far enough long in this generation for a library to build up for the used game Market to be saturated but we are going

[40:16] to see a lot of copies of Tony Hawk 5 um but I used to really enjoy seeing like these games that were like oh I remember hearing how bad this was and it’s like $

[40:28] two and like you kind of buy it it’s the same reason like you watch like a really bad bee horror movie like you know it’s bad like you know it’s

[40:40] really bad but you want to see the zipper on the monster so you watch it and I think that’s the same thing with some bad

[40:49] games and there’s been some that I’ve grab words like yeah I’ll pay two bucks for this uh this Gong Show why not I got nothing to do

[40:58] uh I don’t have a kid so I would buy these games and play them and like yeah that was a horrible game it was so buggy it was so broken thank goodness it

[41:05] wasn’t on my PC because it probably would have fried the GPU and yeah but now I obviously that’s one indulgent that has gone by the

[41:14] wayside in regards to games Cinema however I still watch B movies she’s just you know asleep in my arms when I’m doing

[41:23] it all right sweetie you’re going to learn about uh toxic EV boy the Toxic Avenger of video games yep waiting waiting to hand out that title

[41:36] oh I think uh Tony Hawk’s getting it yeah I don’t know I think Tony Hawk is a little bit too cynical to ever achieve that I know toxic Avengers least

[41:46] charming and like almost well meaning yeah they mean well and they it was made with heart not much budget but lots of heart beautiful

[41:57] I think gentlemen on that I think that’s a pretty good bow on that some interesting thoughts on it and uh yeah welcome to fatherhood watch what

[42:05] you buy yeah just in general yeah that’s like that’s not even just gaming advice that’s just life

[42:13] advice at this point chainsaw around the house not a good idea good Sunfire damn it but it was so

[42:25] cheap poor Sunfire oh P Baker of the 90s really really off topic but I heard like a I read a couple articles where

[42:37] the Aztec was making a bit of a comeback thanks to Breaking Bad Breaking Bad yeah I could totally see it the classic what is ultimately like reviled

[42:46] is one of the worst looking cars ever built starts to make this massive comeback because everyone saw on the show it’s like hey that’s the wonderful

[42:53] Breaking Bad I totally want an Aztec now well I think the would have made a comeback too if they hadn’t have taken all the molds for the

[43:00] car and used them as fishing weights off the coast of Ireland which is I’m not lying really that’s what happened yeah they’re

[43:08] looking for the original diecast because like the like the the the car itself is made of of stainless steel yeah so they had these like molds these like cast

[43:20] molds uh they were just dead weight and when the company went bankrupt back in the 80s they didn’t know what to do with them so this uh this like fishing

[43:29] Village in Ireland or or like a fishing company like they just bought a bunch of them because they were heavy and there was a lot of like good loops and stuff

[43:38] you could tie ropes to and they were being used as fishing weights why not recycle that’s great exactly unless unless I’ve been lied to uh oh in which

[43:47] case internet check yeah I’m going to I just want to apologize in advance because I know there’s going to be somebody on the internet who’s going to

[43:55] fact check that and it is wrong I just want to lessen the Wrath um I will admit that there are times where I am wrong so we’ll get angry letters it’s like Gavin

[44:07] I traveled all the way to Ireland and I scuba dived all over the place and I didn’t see a single DeLorean I’m really DeLorean where’s my

[44:17] DeLorean one of those yeah one just to finish the story you have to finish the story so did they pull it up and proceed to start making new DeLorean or was it I

[44:26] don’t destroyed at that point yeah I think they’re just like okay there they are carry on like I don’t think there was any I don’t know I I want to look

[44:35] into the story again because it’s been a while since I was reading it but um just they can reminded of this this kind of story I heard that I I thought was real

[44:50] I’m hoping it’s real I’m starting to do it now it sounds too awesome to be true thanks next podcast you’re gonna have to let us in you’re gonna have to find the

[44:56] answer I will I’ll have to go do some Recon and come back so uh hold off on internet on proving me wrong I might do it myself no let us know in the comments

[45:04] let us know we’ll go and discover the truth of the laan in Ireland stay tuned folks that’s pretty good I like that

[45:14] yeah a big splash just like next week old timey call for trolls great wonderful and on that wonderful note we were wrap up for this week as

[45:29] always folks we do this show every week if you have any question comments or suggestions please reach out to us on the website newad gaming.com

[45:37] um yeah we’ll try to stay more on topic but that was a good that that is some really some legitimate thinking points I think I’ll uh of come back to when I

[45:47] have to buy something next or if I’m looking to buy a DeLorean one or the other so until thanks for tuning in everybody until

[45:55] next week I’m Trevor and I have a four-month old I’m Gavin I have a two-month old I’m Jeff two and a half and a

[46:03] 5-year-old wonderful thanks guys see you next week see you